Thoughts from a Central Valley Pastor

Category: Church Discipline

Five Questions to Ask at Outdoor Revivals

Mario Murillo recently hosted his “Living Proof” revival campaign at a vacant lot on the 198 highway here in Kings County. Many people were curious about what was happening underneath the big tent. I did some research and decided to write an article about how to be discerning at revivals like this one.

Outdoor revivals are a unique part of American church history. They were a common practice during the Great Awakenings of the 18th and 19th centuries when pastors, like Jonathan Edwards, would preach for many hours and see people impacted in powerful ways. In his work Thoughts on the Revival of Religion in New England Edwards made it clear that his guiding principle was “to take the Scriptures as our guide.” This means always testing what takes place during a revival with what is described in God’s word. 

Some people don’t like to ask questions about revivals. They think questions will “quench the spirit” and put a damper on what is taking place. This mentality goes against the Bible’s emphasis on biblical discernment. 1 John 4:1 says this, “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.” (English Standard Version) 

People are often offended by the thought of their favorite Bible teacher being questioned. Instead of being ignored, these types of questions should be encouraged. All Christians should seek to be like the believers in the ancient city of Berea. Acts 17:11 describes them like this, “they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.” They were examining the teaching of the apostle Paul! If it is appropriate to examine Paul’s teaching, then surely Christians should be ready to examine the teaching of modern day teachers, especially those who come from out of town and set up a tent where they promise to display the miraculous work of God. 

Below you will find a list of questions and Bible passages that will help you be discerning: 

1) Is the speaker willing to submit to the leadership of a local church? Hebrews 13:7 says, “Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.” If the person is the autonomous leader of their own church or para-church organization, then it is difficult to know who they are accountable to. 

2) Does the speaker take the word of God out of context? A classic example of this is when someone makes the claim that the spirit of God is present in a special way at the revival by quoting from Matthew 18, “where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.” The diligent student of Scripture knows that Matthew 18 is referring to church discipline, not revival meetings. Church discipline is very difficult and involves removing someone from a local church. Jesus promised he would be present in a special way because church discipline is a uniquely holy and delicate matter. 

3) Does the speaker use any manipulation to bring people to the front of the revival meeting? 2 Corinthians 4:2 says, “But we have renounced disgraceful, underhanded ways. We refuse to practice cunning or to tamper with God’s word, but by the open statement of the truth we would commend ourselves to everyone’s conscience in the sight of God.” 

Open air revivals often recruit hundreds of volunteers from out of state to come to the meetings so it will look like there is a miraculous movement of God in a community. This encourages those genuinely seeking God to be impressed with the number of people present and they are more willing to come to the front of the tent because it is packed with people. 

Revival speakers often ask for involvement from the crowd to stimulate interest. Beware of raising your hand because the speaker may then ask you to stand up. Once you are standing he may ask you to come to the front and before you know it you may be asked to recite a prayer of repentance. He will be bound to have photographers at the front who will take pictures and later claim that hundreds of people came to Christ, when in fact they originally raised their hand outside the tent because they “wanted to see God at work in a special way.” 

4) Does the speaker encourage the crowd to give an interpretation of what they are saying when someone speaks in tongues? 1 Corinthians 14:27-28 says, “If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God.” This passage is often ignored at revival meetings, but it needs to be given as a warning to everyone present. The Bible makes it clear that the worship of God needs to be done “decently and in order.” (1 Cor. 14:40) There is no disclaimer that says this can be ignored at open air meetings. 

5) Does the speaker follow the apostle Paul’s example of “presenting the gospel free of charge?” In 1 Corinthians 9 Paul wrote that it is fine for teachers of God’s word to be supported by their work, but he was careful to not ask for money because he wanted to make sure no one could accuse him of impure motives. He wrote, “That in my preaching I may present the gospel free of charge, so as not to make full use of my right in the gospel.” (1 Cor. 9:18). 

Many of the ministries that accept money from revival meetings do not disclose their finances to the public. This is a cause for concern because unlike churches, these groups do not give annual reports to their followers and thus people never know how much the speaker and his organization makes. This leads to many questions. If the speaker has pure motives then he should be open about the finances of the organization and be willing to disclose the information when asked. 

This list of questions is not an exhaustive list. There are many questions that discerning Christians need to ask of any teaching they hear. This type of questioning should be a common practice for believers because we are called to constantly compare what is taught with what the Bible teaches. My prayer is that we would be discerning and honor God in our desire to “rightly handle the word of God.” (2 Timothy 2:15) 

Healthy Churches and Church Discipline

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! This is the last article in a series on the Nine Marks of a Healthy Church (as described in Mark Dever’s book of the same name). We have already looked at the need for expositional preaching, Biblical theology, the gospel, conversion, evangelism, and church membership. This article is going to round out the series by looking at church discipline, discipleship, and leadership. 

  1. Church Discipline 

Dever describes church discipline as “simple obedience to God and a simple confession that we need help.” Church discipline is the practice of maintaining purity in the church as described most clearly in Matthew 18:15-17. Jesus told the disciples “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” 

Every step of church discipline is to be done in love with the goal of restoring relationships in the church family. The first step is unique because the offended individual initiates the restoration by going to the other person and lovingly telling him he has been offended. This is an important detail because sometimes we say or do things without knowing the pain it has caused others (i.e. a poorly worded comment or a joke that went too far).

The second step only comes into play if the first step does not go well. The second step is for the offended party to take one or two others along to lovingly share their concern for restoring the relationship. If the person does not respond to this then the issue begins to affect more people in the church family so the next step is for the whole church to be told what is happening so that the person who is unrepentant recognizes the seriousness of the issue and apologizes for what took place. The last step is difficult for any church to experience, but it has a purifying effect on the church family because the unrepentant individual is lovingly told they cannot take part in the full benefits of the church family until they repent and seek reconciliation. 

Dever does a good job of explaining the history and importance of church discipline. This is one of most neglected parts of healthy church life because of the perceived awkwardness holding church members accountable. Jesus made it clear that it needs to be a part of church life so that the purity of the church will be maintained. 

2. Discipleship 

Dever describes this mark of a healthy church as “A Concern for Discipleship and Growth.” All believers are expected to grow spiritually. Jesus said, “I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.” (John 15:5) The healthy Christian life is marked by the believer continually being transformed into the image of Christ. This is not to be done alone. The Christian life is to be lived in community with other believers (Hebrews 10:24-25). The unity that believers have with God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit is reflected in the unity believers have with other brothers and sisters in Christ. When a church is functioning in a healthy way there will be countless opportunities for spiritual growth by the many interactions each believer has with others. 

Discipleship is the term used to describe the way Christians grow spiritually in the church. It is modeled after the way Jesus trained disciples to become the leaders of the church. Those men learned what it meant to be a follower of Christ by interacting with him, face-to-face for a prolonged period of time. That is how discipleship is to happen in healthy churches today. 

There are many different ways Christians can be discipled. There are informal methods that encourage people to interact together. There are more formal classes that help believers understand the full counsel of God as revealed in his word. The leadership of local churches need to have a plan for how to equip believers to grow in their knowledge of God’s word and in their commitment to obey God’s word. The church as a whole needs to recognize that they are responsible to love one another and that includes helping each other grow in godliness. 

3. Church Leadership

Mark Dever makes the argument that church leadership needs to have five aspects. He starts by writing that biblical church leadership is done in a congregational context. He cites several different passages to support his view that the congregation of each local church has the final authority on decisions in the church. There are several different views on the issue of authority in the church. Dever doesn’t spend much time explaining other views of church polity. He cautions against modeling church leadership from what the apostles did in the early church because “we present-day church leaders might ascribe too much authority to ourselves, without deserving such authority.” I would recommend that readers of this article do their own study on this important issue before coming to a conclusion. 

The other aspects of biblical church leaders are that they are biblically qualified, that they are charismatic leaders, that they are Christlike, and that their leadership is modeled after God’s authority. The biblical qualifications for elders leading a church are listed in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 2. The qualifications describe different aspects of having a character that is “above reproach” along with the skill of being able to teach God’s word. Dever’s description of churches needed “charismatic” leaders does not refer to a leader’s engaging personality or his ability to teach. It is a reference to the original Greek idea of “charisma,” which refers to the gifts of grace that God has given the church. A charismatic leader is one who seeks to lead by the power of the Holy Spirit in order to equip the saints for the work of the church. 

The Christlike model of church leadership is necessary in healthy churches because Jesus Christ is the Shepherd of the church and all the other leaders are his undershepherds. Healthy churches need to focus their energy on pursuing Christ and helping others to do the same. The last aspect of healthy church leadership is connected to the authority of God. Many people have a corrupt view of human authority. This can create a skepticism towards all human authority. Dever makes the argument that healthy churches will teach a biblical view of authority that creates a sense of safety and security for those in the church because they understand the leadership is seeking the growth of the people instead of seeking to control them.